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there is more tomorrow. and of course thursday you get healthcare judge i'm going to join you for that one. bill: i'll see you then, owe aeu. jaime: perfect. thanks so much for joining us. bill: "happening now" starts right now. catch you tomorrow. jaime: have a great day. jenna: the fast and furious controversy heating up again. republican lawmakers say the full house will vote on thursday, as jaime and bill were just talking about, that is a big day. the skwroet o vote on thursday will be to hold the attorney general in contempt of congress. this as the white house and congressman issa go at it over the assertion of executive privilege. more on that in a moment. gregg: fallout all over the place after the u.s. supreme court slashed most of arizona's illegal immigration law. why it's even raising more questions for police now. jenna: parents, and when i say parents i mean you, gregg. gregg: thank you. jenna: if you think you know what your teens are doing
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online. gregg: i have no idea. jenna: a new survey will leave you stunned. that story and breaking all "happening now." gregg: i don't want to know. i really don't want to know, you know. i just want to be in the dark. jenna: well, apparently a lot of parents are. gregg: apparently i i am. jenna: that's a place where you're comfortable. that story coming up this hour, but first. gregg: the white house blasting back against the latest accusation in the fast and furious investigation. hello, everyone, i'm greg jarrett in for jon scott. jenna: i'm jenna lee. with days to go before a contempt of congress vote against attorney general eric holder the white house comes out swinging today defending the president's assertion of executive privilege over key documents related to that gun-walking sting. this after congressman ice satisfactory's letter challenging the legal basis for withholding those subpoenaed records came out. this is even accusing the
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president of trying to obstruct a congressional investigation. that letter very important. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. what were some of the key points in the letter sent by congressman issa? >> jenna you hit one right there, whether the president of the united states is solely using his power as commander-in-chief to further on strubgt a congressional investigation. chairman darrell issa writing to the president, to what extent were you or your senior advisers involved in fast and furious and the fallout from it including the false letter provided to the attorney general's committee. please provide any meetings, teleconferencess between the white house and the justice department between february 24th 2011 and 212 before you asserted executive privilege. the bottom line a lot of republicans on capitol hill did not think president obama was
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directly involved in operation fast and furious, they thought it was a national security matter, or a justice department matter, but when he stepped in last week asserting executive privilege that raised a lot of eyebrows here wondering why at this moment was the president suddenly stepping into this heated investigation. jenna: a strong letter from congressman issa. we mentioned a strong response from the white house. how has the white house and the administration responded so far? >> essentially making the case that they are doing what other administrations, both republicans and democrats have done in the past. spokesman eric schultz issued this statement, quote, the congressman's analysis has as much merit as his absurd contention that operation fast and furious was created in order to promote gun control. our position is consistent with executive branch legal precedent for the last three decades in dating back to president's reagan department of justice. so there you have it mentioning president reagan as the reason
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that they are doing this. something that is obviously near and dear to the hearts of many republicans here on capitol hill, jenna. jenna: a big story, keeping you busy in the capitol. more on this today and certainly for the week. mike emanuel on capitol hill. thank you. >> thank you. gregg: this is your election headquarters as mitt romney campaigns in new jersey today. one new theory is emerge baggy the governor's strategy to win in november instead of focusing on the ten or so big battleground states, mr. romney's campaign is reportedly concentrating on some game changers. wisconsin, michigan, minnesota, pennsylvania. there is the map. president obama carried those states comfortably four years ago, but republicans believe they have a shot at flipping them this fall. joining me now is associated editor of the hill a.b. stoddard.
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good to see you. what do you think of those four states in. >> well i'm going to put them in this order of his chances. i think wisconsin is probably the best, and then pennsylvania, and then minnesota, no excuse me, and then -- yeah, minnesota and michigan. i think michigan because of the popularity of the auto bailout is a very tough one. for mitt romney doesn't mean he shouldn't put it in bay i think he has the best chances in wisconsin and pennsylvania. i think the republican governor in michigan said the auto bailout was necessary and a success. so that's a high hurdle. gregg: people pay attention to the polls obviously. take a look at the electorial college map, "real clear politics." wow. president obama has a huge lead there, doesn't he? >> yes, he does. he has more. patti ann: to 270 than mitt romney does. and mitt romney is concentrating
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now on a midwest plan that would also grab one of those now blue states that you mentioned to try to get to 270. when you look at president obama's advantages, it really is in contrast to the national polling. that could change, battleground states could move and we watch polls -- we are waiting for more in the swing states very carefully. but the map is in play. i mean mitt romney is going to have to worry about the immigration ruling from yesterday, in colorado, nevada, virginia and possibly arizona. and president obama is going to have to worry about the numbers we see in polling about the direction of the economy. gregg: at the risk of jenna calling me a nerd, i do want to talk specifically, let's assume he wins florida, north carolina, virginia and ohio, which is by the way a very tall order. he would still be at 266 electoral votes. if you toss any one of those game changer states, though,
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he's over-the-top, right? >> right. i think that, again, wisconsin would be his best chance, but he'd want a buffer of another, and as i mentioned, pennsylvania is a place where at the beginning of the campaign president obama thought that was going to be pretty safe, he won it last time, i think that's really changing. democrats there, if you look at the turn out in the primary election in april it was dismal for president obama. people either refused to circle his name or voted for somebody else, these prisoners and other people that they put on primary ballots that weren't real candidates. it said a lot about the support among democrats, particularly blue-collar democrats in pennsylvania for president obama. mitt romney also has to work a cushion in there because arizona actually could have been in play. i'm not saying it's promising but the immigration decision puts that state in question. gregg: i was looking at the hispanic vote in arizona.
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governor romney is down by like 40 points in the latino-hispanic vote so -- >> this is a problem. president obama was enjoying these good approval ratings, dominance in the polling over mitt romney among latinos, but it wasn't certain that they were going to turn out well enough for him to make the difference, put him over-the-top, because they have been frustrated by his lack of movement on immigration reform, as well as the high record number of deportations his administration has carried out. this decision yesterday is so much different than the decision two weeks ago to halt deportation of children of illegal. this is a galvanizing issue. it's second generation latinos who worry they will be pulled over because they look hrat will the and they don't look white, this is a rile energizing issue, that's why mitt romney has to worry about trying to dodge it and he needs a specific response to create a bridge to that community or it will make an electoral difference on the
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edges in the states we mentioned. gregg: ab stoddard, good to see you a.b. jenna: rick scott declaring a state of emergency after heavy rains from hurricane debby flooded low lying neighborhoods in the state's panhandled. knocked out power to thousands of homes and businesses. the storm spawning several twisters in paul county that blasted through the neighborhood, leaving several homes as you can see on the screen in khapl -bls. the storm is being blamed for creating this giant sink whole in ocala forcing people to evacuate. it doesn't look safe now tkoeuts. a deadly tornado kills a mother of three as she shielded her toddler from the storm. the little girl was found alive in her mother's arms in the woods to her home. quite a testament to a mother's love, and again she lost her
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life. gregg: more on the storm now. let's check in with meteorologist maria molina live at the fox center. >> good morning, gregg, good morning jenna. today we have an update on tropical storm to debby that has just come out from the national hurricane center at 11:00am this morning. tropical storm debby has weakened a bit. the storm system has maximum sustained winds at 40 miles per hour, still moving very slowly to the east at about 3 miles per hour, that is really the reason why we've seen such incredible amounts of rainfall over parts of the florida panhandle. right now we are anticipating landfall from the storm system early tomorrow morning, wednesday, 8:00 ashes m with sustained winds at 40 miles per hour. the system will continue to weaken as it moves over land before exiting out into portions of the atlantic as we head into the weekend and possibly reintensifying over open water. it will be very warm out here. it will be over open water. we don't expect any interaction
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with land. 12 inches over northern florida. four to 8 inches of rainfall over this area. flooding is a main tern. jenna: thousands forced from their homes as triple digit temperatures there and record drought conditions expect to spark more wildfires today. this is a continuing story out of colorado. latest details on a live report coming up. here is a question for all your parents out there as well. do you really know what your kids are up to when they are on the interjet? gregg: no. jenna: the results of a surprising new study just ahead on that. gregg: new fallout today in the wake of the supreme court's split decision on arizona's immigration law, what it means for other states with similar laws on the books, and for the republican party come november. we've got arizona senator jon kyl on deck and he'll give us his take in just a moment.
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gregg: this just in to fox. the greater manchester area of england the results of a gas explosion on the left side of your screen. check out these aerial pictures. a hundred homes have been evacuated. a center has been set up at a nearby school. nobody knows why this happened. a glass explosion has obviously leveled a lot of homes in oldu oldham, england, a suburban area near manchester. we'll get you details as soon as we get them. jenna: the high court striking down three key provisions of the arizona immigration law yesterday, but upholding the police to check immigration status of anyone they stop for a violation.
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the justices leaving the door open to further challenges once the law is implemented. arizona governor jan brewer says the only real solution here is a fresh start. >> the bottom line is is what we need is a knew administration, somebody ha will take the responsibility, uphold the rule of law, and secure our boulder boarders so we can deal with all the eupl us issues pertaining to illegal immigration. and we have that opportunity in november. jenna: joining knee now is senator jon kyl on capitol hill. nice to have you back with us. >> thank you, jenna. jenna: in your long career you've had to navigate this issue of immigration policy as a republican in a state where the hispanic vote is very important, so what does the supreme court ruling mean for the republican party come november, and how should the party navigate this issue of immigration? >> first of all let me be clear that the key provision of the law was upheld by the u.s.
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supreme court, and the response of the obama administration has been not very good, let's put it that way, in effect saying, well maybe the supreme court upheld it but we're not going to work with the state of arizona to implement it, and that is a shame, because local law enforcement can be a big help to the federal government in enforcing our immigration laws. second to your question, there is no question that arizona will vote for mitt romney in the presidential election this fall. it's not in jeopardy of going to obama. and third i think governor brewer was exactly right, the remedy here for the president's nonenforcement of the law, and really thumbing his nose at arizona in its efforts to try to see that the law is enforced, the real remedy is to elect a different president, one who will be committed to enforcing the law. and that is probably the only real hope that we have, at least in the short period of time that we have before the next election. jenna: senator, kyl, let me go back to the first point that you made, the key provision part of the law, where the police can
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check immigration status. we mentioned that that is being upheld at this time. but there seems to be this question, according to reports, that it will not be cooperated with the federal government, with the department of homeland security. what can you tell us about what you're hearing and what is your understanding of the situation. >> there is a new email from the department of homeland security and it leaves some questions. what they've said in effect is that with states like arizona, and arizona specifically they are not going to cooperate, meaning that arizona will no longer be able to participate in a program known by the code section 287g, which has been very, very helpful in enabling arizona people to understand whether someone who has been apprehended is an illegal eupl grant or noteupl grant or not. there is a database in new hampshire or vermont where you can say we have this person named so-and-so, will you check
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his status for us. and then they get back to you. it's unclear whether ice will even return the calls from arizona, whether they will even provide that information. in any event the database is no longer available for arizonaians to make their inquiry. not only will ice not take anybody to custody if the phoenix police department calls and said we have these people, will you take them, they appear to be illegal immigrants, they won't even help arizona determine the immigration status of people. jenna: we'll see how that situation plays out on the ground. again they have to see how the police are going to be implementing this law on a local level. that is something we'll be talking a lot more about during this show today, senator. >> they don't have to wait and see. they can help arizona enforce the law now. yes, as to how the law is implemented, any law can be implemented in an improper way. i don't think this one will be. jenna: i know you're going to retire in january, after your years in as of and an attempt as well for comprehensive
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immigration reform, why can't we reform the system? what do you really see is the problem here if you can take a step back even from some of the partisanship. what do you think is the issue? >> there are many issues. we tried this in 2007, i worked with senator kennedy, for example, and senator mccain and others and we had a bill that we thought could pass. the labor unions were the primary opponents, especially of the guest worker provisions and people like senator -- then senator barack obama voted for the apd -pltsz which will be deemed to be poison-pill amendments that would kill the legislation. eventually the majority leader harry reid pulled it from the agenda because it didn't have the support to pass. you can't remove politics from it, that is unfortunate and the reality and that's why it's so hard to get comprehensive immigration reform passed. in the meantime there are things we can do. for example we could pass an e~verify program to make sure that employers know that their employing american citizens. we can provide for agricultural
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workers to be able to stay here and work even if they came here illegally. we can certainly do something like the achieve act that senator hutchison and rubio and i have been working on that would actually provide the students that you've heard so much about a permanent status, a permanent legal status, not sis ten ship. they would have to be like anybody else in applying for citizenship. but they would know it's not the whim of the administration in enforcing the laws that allow them to stay horror not. there is much more to do to make sure the border is secure. much more needs to be done. jenna: we know we'll be talking later this week about healthcare. nice to have you today. look forward to seeing you soon. thank you. gregg: thousands of people forced from their homes, dozens of wildfires burning out of control in the west, including the one you're seeing -- can we show this on the tv screen? in utah. the forest service spread so thin they are calling in
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jenna: locals are describing the scene on the ground that you're watching on your screen as looking like a war zone. this is oldham, england, it's a suburb of manchester. and what we're looking at, and as the helicopter pulls out, we don't have control of that. but it's a residential neighborhood where there's a suspected gas explosion. one child is dead, another person trapped, but as you can see from the footage here, it's tough to assess this situation even at this time.
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rescuers are trying to dig through that rubble and see if they can find any more survivors. there goes the helicopter, you can see the scene. a residential neighborhood, a suspected gas explosion and, apparently, one person, believed to be a child, is dead today. as we hear more out of england, we'll bring you that news. gregg: well, the air force called into battle the raging wildfires out west. take a look at this map. it gives you a stunning look at how many fires are burning right now. forest service stretched so thin, they're being forced to request military air tankers from at least one nearby air force base. a move they can only make if there are no more private tankers that are available anywhere in the country. let's go to utah now. the wood hollow fire already destroying dozens of homes, 300 more threatened by the flames. another 250 homes totally wiped out by the high park fire, that's in colorado.
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one of the largest, most destructive wildfires in state history. and then thousands more forced from their homes by the waldo canyon fire, also colorado, many of them now realizing everything they had is gone. >> just a house but, jeez, my whole life up there, you know? this community has, um, it's just beautiful people that live up there, and everyone's suffering, and it's been a torture right now. >> trees on fire like the pine trees, they blow up like bombs. it's kind of scary. >> these men that live in my community that have been up all night for several nights in a row, and last night guarding my home and three others. gregg: so sad. alicia aacuna has the latest from denver. >> reporter: let's begin with those c-130 air tankers, we just received a briefing.
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the incident commander says they have three of those in their area in the rotation. they've been a big help, and this is why. >> they're big, they're heavy, it's hard to get them in and out of there. so we like to put them up on the ridge tops, we like to use them along roads where we can strengthen the road in terms of fire defense bec lay down a long layer of retardant for us. >> reporter: there is just 5% containment on the waldo canyon fire that is burning west of colorado springs in 4500 acres. fire officials say that they are expecting extreme fire potential today meaning in addition to the 100-plus-degree temperatures, crews are battling winds and low moisture. 4,000-plus people remain evacuated from their homes, but today some of them will get police escorts back to their property for just about 30 minutes so they can get anything more that they can find. arson investigators are waiting to get back into the burn area to look into the possibility that this could be human-caused
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and are asking anyone who was in the canyon area on friday and saturday to come forward if they saw anything suspicious. there are currently, gregg, eight fires burning in the state of colorado alone, and the governor here, john hickenlooper, just also gave us an update and said that of those eight fires 175,000 acres have been charred so far in the past few weeks. back to you. gregg: incredible story. alicia, thanks. jenna: well, switching gears here, olympic athletes burn a lot of calories. gregg: they do? jenna: absolutely, they train really hard. now they can indulge with some of their fast food cravings at the world's biggest mcdonald's. it's opening for six weeks in london for the summer olympics. the fast food eatery will feature a two-story restaurant, 1500 seats, 20 cash registers, and company officials say they're going to need it since they plan on selling 50,000 big macs over the full 29 days of
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the olympics and the paraolympics as well. i don't know if i see michael phelps, you know, with a big mac right before a big race. gregg: oh, he totally does. he totally does. he consumes, like, an immense number of calories every day. jenna: but a burger and fries? gregg: probably ten of them at least. jenna: after swimming. gregg: no, before. [laughter] jenna: i don't know, i know gregg has this relationship with michael phelps, i had no idea. gregg: i read the story about it. [laughter] okay. new accusations flying back and forth over the your of executive privilege, fast and furious. a fair and balanced look at whether the presidential power was warranted. plus, the impact it could have on a looming contempt of congress vote against the attorney general, eric holler.
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jenna: brand new stories coming up next hour including this one, fox news obtaining a draft of a let or from more than 30 gop lawmakers about the ongoing investigation into a series of national security leaks. what they're now demanding from the obama administration. we're going to have more on that. plus, a judge orders the mother of a 13-year-old girl to cut off her hair after her daughter is accused of cutting off another little girl's hair. are these so-called shame punishments really the answer? are they even legal? can a judge do that? our legal panel weighs in.
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and turkey is now threatening syria with retaliation over the downing of a turkish military jet. what happens if tensions escalate even further between the two countries? does that mean we have to get involved? good questions for next hour. gregg: new fallout over executive privilege in the fast and furious investigation with the white house defending the use of the presidential power over documents related to the botched gun-walking sting. well, this as the vote looms to hold the attorney general, eric holder, in contempt of congress for not turning over the subpoenaed records. congressman darrell issa, who chairs the committee investigating fast and furious, writing in a letter that the president went way too far in exercising executive privilege, even accusing mr. obama of obstructing justice. really? joining us now, kate overshane who is the former chair of the republican party of virginia and the vice president of young americas foundation.
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jen pesky joining us now -- now --sacci. >> good morning. gregg: jen, let me start with you. is this going too far? >> is the letter going too far? absolutely. it's an absurd claim. apparently, congressman issa has a short memory because not only were these tactics started during the bush administration, but executive privilege has been around for three decades. it was actually started during the reagan administration. so the obama administration is absolutely consistent with current law, and they've handed over 7600 documents over the last 14 months. so this is an unfortunate, partisan fishing expedition when congress has a lot more important things to be focused on right now. gregg: you know, kate, and, in fact, i do have a copy here of the democratic responses on the committee to this spire affair -- entire affair, and they say, yes, this is a partisan, political fishing expedition. do you worry this will hurt republicans?
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>> no. i think that the obama administration has reached way too far. and by the way, i could have written the talking points. it's always bush's fault even though fast and furious is a program that took place between 2009 and 2011 during the obama administration. but what the chairman is saying, what issa is saying is the obama administration can't have it both ways. they have said that they knew nothing about, um, attorney general holder's response, that february 4th letter that he has finally acknowledged was false. the obama administration said we didn't know anything about it. now they're claiming executive privilege which means they knew something about it. so they have to make a decision here; did they know something about it? come clean, present the documents, or they didn't know anything about it. but if they're just assessing executive privilege in order to obstruct the investigation, that is a huge problem. gregg: you know, jen, i want to play a sound bite from the house, former house speaker,
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nancy pelosi, minority leader. here it is. >> these very same people are holding in the contempt are part of a nationwide scheme to suppress the vote. they are closely allied with those who are suffocating the system. unlimited special interests, secret money. and they are poisoning the debate. they are poisoning the debate with that money. gregg: jen, do you buy that? really? come on, seriously? [laughter] >> look, i do want to touch on two things that kate said. one is -- gregg: no, just answer my questions. >> i wouldn't want to talk about pelosi east: gregg: jen, come on. >> look, i'm not even sure. you know, i think -- gregg: you don't buy it, do you? >> no. there are many issues -- gregg: jen, seriously. you don't buy it, do you? >> that's absolutely true, and i do think speaker pelosi has a very strong point there. but we're talking here about
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past and furious, and we're talking about this absurd debate that's happening in congress right now when we know a million people could lose construction jobs over the next couple of months. we know that student loan rates are about to double. why respect we focusing on that and talking about that? gregg: you have this really perplexed look on your face. >> because a border patrol agent was killed because of a botched federal program, and the congress is just trying to get some answers about why it happened. what is this ridiculous cover-up? i thought this was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history. and then for nancy pelosi to come in and throw race-baiting into it and try to continue this administration's policy of dividing americans is absurd. let's just come clean with the truth, some pouring in documents that don't matter. put forward the documents that were requested -- [inaudible conversations] he wants to be open and honest, so be open and honest and stop claiming this privilege that does not apply if he didn't have
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anything to do with it. gregg: all right. >> the documents are not related to -- gregg: kate -- >> to claim executive privilege. gregg: you guys can continue this conversation after i leave. >> thank you, gregg. thanks for having us on. gregg: thanks. jenna: jobs and the economy, the number one issue on voters' minds, and now we're hearing that right before election day the defense industry could announce massive layoffs. huge companies may be forced to slash thousands of jobs and talk about before those job cuts actually happen. elizabeth macdonald has the details from the fox business network. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, jenna. lockheed martin is warning they melee off 123,000 workers in november, and so -- or by november. and here's what's going on. a 1988 law called the warn act says that companies like defense companies must give workers two months' notice, meaning 60-day notice, before any -- basically,
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before job cuts are in place or, basically, shutting down plants or factories are enacted. so the sequestration, meaning the budget cuts, that are coming effectively january 2nd. so when you do the math,60 days back from that is november 2nd. so that's right smack before the presidential election. so now we're seeing lockheed martin coming out and telling fox business approximately 123,000 layoffs there. we're already seeing boeing laying off about 8,000 worker, general dynamics is talking about laying off workers, and moody's saying that the budget cuts coming are credit negative for the defense industry. but moody's is also saying it has a stable outlook for the defense sector, and it is also noting that defense spending is a post-world war ii highs. in other words, they are also saying that the defense cuts may not come because of the political chaos in washington, d.c., and they say if they do come, if those defense cuts are enacted, they're expecting they're going to see possibly late in 2013 or even going into
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2014 as the political fighting over defense cuts continues. back to you, jenna. jenna: some big numbers there for potential job losses, thank you very much, elizabeth macdonald with fox business. gregg: the supreme court has, obviously, issued its split decision on arizona's immigration law. how will state law enforcement begin implementing what's left over? judge andrew napolitano weighs in coming up next. ♪
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jenna: well, now the supreme court has ruled on arizona's immigration law, the issue goes back to the state level. specifically, how law enforcement is going to move ahead with what's left of the law. as far as governor jan brewer is concerned, it's full steam ahead. >> the bottom line is that, you know, we feel, i feel that when we won and had victory on the heart of senate bill 1070 that it would be implemented
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immediately. jenna: there are some questions to whether or not the feds will cooperate with local law enforcement if they stop someone on another offense and want to check their immigration status. fox senior judicial analyst judge andrew napolitano is with us. so, judge, if you're a local police officer, what's, what's the call here? >> well, unfortunately, jenna, it depends on what state you're in. if you're in arizona and you're a local police officer and you've stopped someone for jay walking or for murder, you want to check your computer to see if there are any outstanding warrants on them or if they are nt here. the computer system will tell you if there are any outstanding warrants, but it will not tell you if they are a lawful resident. why? because secretary janet napolitano -- no relation, as you know -- announced yesterday within hours of the supreme court decision that the federal government, a, will not accept or receive into federal detention facilities anyone arrested by arizona law enforcement for immigration violations unless it's a felony
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and overstaying a visa is not a felony and, b, the federal computer apparatus will no longer inform arizona police of the immigration status of people they arrest. jenna: let me stop you there. is the federal government, in a round-about way, breaking state law that's requiring the police to actually check the immigration status if there's a reason to? >> the president of the united states is violating his oath faithfully to uphold the law. i emphasize the word "faithfully" because that's in his oath of office, and in his list of responsibilities in the constitution. he's basically enforcing the laws he likes and not enforcing the laws he doesn't like. jenna: so what actions can the state now take if they get into implementing this law in full, the police officers are on the ground, let's say hypothetically they really are confronted with the reality that they're not getting the backing from the department of homeland security. what actions can be taken then by the state? >> okay. if the police officer is in newark, new jersey, and he arrests someone, his computer will tell him of the immigration status of that person. and if they are an illegal, he
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can put them into the custody of the federal government which can retain them, deport them or release them. but if the police officer is in tucson, arizona, the feds will not cooperate with them at all. so inquiring of the immigration status of that person is nothing but a statistical exercise. since they cannot be arrested and put into an arizona facility, supreme court barred that yesterday, and the feds will not take them into a federal facility -- secretary napolitano barred that yesterday. so governor brewer is in a conundrum. her police no longer have a state law to enforce, and they cannot enforce the federal law in place of the feds. jenna: so who's enforcing the law? >> in arizona with respect to immigration law, the only laws that are being enforced are those which rise to a felony which means if you orchestrated the movement of a good number of immigrants illegally from mexico into arizona, that would be a felony, and you, the person who delivered them across the
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border, could be charged, and the feds would prosecute you. but the people who came across the border would not be charged. because the president has chosen to enforce one law and not another. jenna: interesting. >> the problem, ultimately, is the president's. he's supposed to enforce all laws whether he likes them or not, and he's not doing that. jenna: judge napolitano, we look forward to talking to you about health care as welcoming occupy up on thursday. >> thank you very much. gregg? gregg: all right, cheating. check out porn, cyberbullying. eye-opening new survey shows a lot of participants don't even know what their kids are really doing online. i do. plus, tips for keeping your teenagers safe. we're going to tell you about that. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement
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gregg: parents are getting a wake-up call today. a new survey shows that teenagers have a whole world online that mom and dad know very little about. that's right. marketing research firm true surveyed more than 2,000 parents and teens about their internet activity. guess what? 71% of teens admit to hiding some of what they do online from their parents. yeah, i'm really surprised. nearly a quarter of teens say they have been victims of cyberbullying, only 10% of parents think their kids have been targets. only 12% believe their teens have accessed internet porn. wake up, mom and dad. in fact, nearly a third say they have seen it, so what can parents do about it? robert siciliano is an online security expert as mcafee, the company that commissioned the study by true research. are parents in denial, robert? >> you think? yes.
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the fact that in 2010 when we did this study 45% of kids said that they were hiding things, and now we're at 70% tells us that parents aren't doing their own due diligence, they're not spending the necessary time with their kids to educate them, and kids are getting deeper into trouble. gregg: are you telling me parents are not sitting down and talking to kids, is that the deal? >> not like they should. a third of parents are just throwing their arms up in the air and giving up, and that's not effective parenting. gregg: yeah, but, see, i just don't want to have that conversation, robert. >> you know, you have to talk to your kids about sex, the bird and the bees, right? gregg: do i have to? [laughter] seriously? >> you have to talk about drugs, alcohol, you also have to talk to them about safe driving too. i mean, these are all things of life that we have to deal with, and you would not put a kid in a car and just let them drive without actually, you know, training them, without making sure that before they get behind the wheel they're okay.
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and the internet can be like a dangerous neighborhood. gregg: robert, give me some advice, okay? just you and me. give me some advice. what do i do? i've got to be patient, right? i've got to sit down, i've got to talk to them, i have to be patient about it, right? >> yes. and the good thing is you can actually use technology to walk you through the process to learn about how to educate your kids on how to protect themselves and to protect the family. so mcafee offers monitoring software that takes you through that process. it educates you, and it educates the child. and, essentially, that's what you want to do. you want to spend time with them, educate them, educate yourself. because the more you know about technology, the better position you're going to be in to prevent them from getting themselves and, ultimately, you in trouble. over half of white kids are actually hacking, and as a result they're cyberbullying. gregg: do you have kids, robert? >> i do, yes. gregg: how many kids do you have? >> i have two little girls. two little girls. gregg: really? and you've had this conversation
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with them? [laughter] >> look, if i could lock my kids in the house until they were 45, i would. but i have to sit down, i have to, you know, talk to them and educate them and monitor them and know what's going on in their online arrives, otherwise -- lives, otherwise it could get out of control really quick. gregg: you're the guy i want to be. i have two daughters -- jenna: maybe robert could come over to your house. gregg: could you have the conversation for me, please? because i don't really want to do it. [laughter] okay. robert, thank you so much for being with us. good advice. >> thank you so much. jenna: robert would be great. have him over for a little conversation. gregg: i don't want to do it. [laughter] jenna: well, it's the cornerstone of the president's domestic policy. no matter which way the supreme court rules this week, our next guest says it will really decide the 2012 election. that's coming up. and check these little guys out. they look cute. but these little prairie dogs are tearing up one utah town. gregg: they're so adorable.
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jenna: find out why there's nothing anyone can do -- gregg: i want to take one home for a pet. jenna: i think they'll give it to you for free. [laughter] [ horn honks ]
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>> reporter: hi, everybody, rick folbaum in the "happening now" control room. brand new stories we're working on just for you including more potential problems for the attorney general, eric holder. first fast and furious, and now republican lawmakers on the hill are asking for an investigation into national security leaks from the obama administration. republicans naming names. we'll pass them along. also, we'll take you overseas live to syria where a bad situation is getting worse. oliver north will join us live on the growing problems over there. and judges handing out punishments that are aimed at shaming young kids. young defendants. a national trend, some say it goes too far. we'll debate that. all of that plus breaking news as the second hour of "happening now" starts right now.
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jenna: hi, even, glad to have you with us, i'm jenna lee. gregg: and i'm gregg jarrett in for jon scott. "happening now," a deluge in florida. have you seen this? tropical storm debby really drenching the sunshine state. sheets of rain threatening to dump up to two feet in some areas as the deadly storm system stalls off florida's gulf coast. jenna: just sitting out there. debby flooding homes, turning roadways into rivers. take a look at st. petersburg on your screen, even cutting off parts of interstate 10 that crosses the northern part of florida. phil keating is near the center in cedar key, florida, with more for us now. >> reporter: hi. the tropical storm's really about 70 miles from making florida landfall, and here comes yet another rain band here. the surf is big, the wind is strong, about 40 miles sustained maximum winds, and all over
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cedar key, well, debris is everywhere, and destruction is what is left of what was the marina. you can see some of the boat, charter boat owners here now trying to pack up some of the debris to see if anything is salvageable. as of this morning parts of interstate 10 across the florida panhandle also underwater. so those stretches have been closed around i-10 and i-75. and the storm not as much of a wind maker, it is a rainmaker. take a look at these arrows this morning from the tampa/st. pete area as the morning commute slogged through flooded roadways. some areas received up to 20 inches in 24 hours, others a foot of rain in 24 hours and another foot is still expected. in fact, in newport ritchie people have to be creative, hauling their food and groceries into their homes yesterday because a mote surrounded their houses. as of today, pascoe county has ordered a mandatory evacuation
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for those several hundred residents down there and for law enforcement and fire officials and rescue personnel all over the state this has, this tropical storm has just been frustrating for its relentless persistence. >> we have had 16-hour days, and it has been crazy. myself and the fire chief, we're just wore out. >> reporter: and this morning president obama called florida governor rick scott assuring him that the state of florida will have no unmet needs over the next few days whatever does happen. back to you. jenna: phil, thank you very much and thank you to your cameraman as well who's keeping that lens dry for us. it's quite a reminder, it doesn't have to be a hurricane to cause a lot of damage out there. it's been a history-making atlantic storm season, and we're still in june. 2012 this year breaking the record for the most named storms so early. debby is the fourth named storm this season. in an average year, a regular year, the fourth named storm
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would have occurred by august 23rd, so we're way ahead of schedule and not in a good way. gregg: yeah. right now new fallout from a series of national security leaks revealing some of our nation's most sensitive secrets. top republicans have identified a possible source inside the white house. president obama's national security adviser, and they want attorney general eric hold tore step aside from the investigation and appoint an independent counsel. excuse me. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington. catherine? >> reporter: gregg, thank you. last hour on the hill republican senators piling on the pressure as the full house vote on contempt looms for the tone general. -- attorney general. national security done lin as a probable source of the leaks, calling for an independent special counsel. quote: no administration should be expected to investigate itself imparticularly on such a grave and sensitive matter in the midst of an election.
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>> to somehow think that you're going to get an objective assessment in the minds of the american people and an effective and unbiased investigation from an attorney general that is now on the verge of being held in contempt of congress i don't think sells with the american people. >> reporter: the senators also question whether this u.s. attorney who was assigned to the leak investigation by holder can be objective claiming he donated to the obama campaign in 2008 and helped vet the presidential candidate. >> these u.s. attorneys report to eric holder. and an attorney general has to make a decision at the beginning of an administration whether they're going to be the chief law enforcement officer of the country or whether they're going to be a political arm of the white house. time and time again given the
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opportunity to make that choice the attorney general's made the political choice. >> reporter: and the senators ridiculed the president's comments that he found accusations that the leaks came from the senior levels of his administration offensive. >> where's the outrage in this administration? where is there any indication that within the obama administration officials are outraged at the criminal leaks of classified information? that put our agents and our friends at risk? >> reporter: more than 30 senators have signed onto the letter. none are democrats. when the leak investigations were announced, attorney general holder said the two u.s. attorneys assigned to these cases will have the authority to follow the facts wherever they may lead. gregg: catherine herridge, thanks very much. >> reporter: you're welcome. jenna: overseas a growing international crisis with reports of fighting on the
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outskirts of damascus. this as tensions with neighboring turkey continue to heat up. the prime minister of turkey now responding after syria shot down a turkish military jet, telling the world that syria is an open threat to his country. and turkey will retaliate. greg talcott streaming live from damascus with more. greg? >> reporter: hey, jenna. officials here are flatly saying it was an act of aggression, that turkey's jet plane crossed into syrian air space even briefly, that's why syria shot it down. no reaction yet to nato's condemnation to the attack today or turkey's announcement that it will have a much more aggressive stance towards syria along its common border. meanwhile, from all that we are seeing and hearing the violence is escalating here by the day. syria appears to be staging a major military offensive nationwide against the armed opposition, and they are bringing it right to the
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suburbs, right here in damascus where we are right now. we heard, our team heard heavy fighting overnight, and that has kept the u.n. observer mission grounded for the past ten days or so. they say it's too dangerous to go out. there was one humanitarian mission run to a nearby hospital. we went along, and i caught up with the head of the overall mission, norwegian general robert mood, here's a bit of my back and forth with him. >> it's disappointing because i come from a position in which more violence is simply lead to more violence again. so it's a circle that we have to break. so for all the stakeholders inside syria and outside syria, that's the main challenge. be. >> reporter: mood also told me that he thinks that patrols could resume in the next couple days, but just across the agencies right now and other u.n. officials saying he
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wouldn't even consider restarting the patrols under the current circumstances. considering some of the places that we have been to in the past couple days and some of the fighting that we have seen, jenna, not surprised. back to you. jenna: greg talcott with the latest out of syria, an important story for us. thank you. coming up, lieutenant colonel oliver north is going to talk to us about the growing conflict between syria and turkey and what it means for us and our allies, coming up in just a few moments from now. gregg: in the meantime, the political world is waiting to hear thursday's supreme court decision on health care. coming up next, we're going to talk to bret baier about what this big ruling could mean in the race for the white house. jenna: do you think we should just skip wednesday and just go straight for thursday? gregg: yeah. wednesday's totally wiped out. [laughter] thursday's the only important day of the week. jenna: prosecutors are presenting new evidence in a texas terror trial. we're going to update you on the case of a saudi college student accused in a bomb plot. you know this story. we'll tell you about the twists and turns.
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gregg: and a town goes to the dogs, prairie dogs. oh, they're so cute. listen to them chirp there. jenna: lots of damage. gregg: and the law, apparently, not on the side of the folks you expect. okay, i like this. >> we're basically held hostage by the prairie dog and the federal government. >> if you were to remove a prairie dog from the prairie ecosystem, the ecosystem could fall apart. a party? [ music plays, record skips ] hi, i'm new ensure clear. clear, huh? my nutritional standards are high. i'm not juice or fancy water, i'm different. i've got nine grams of protein. twist my lid. that's three times more than me! twenty-one vitamins and minerals and zero fat! hmmm. you'll bring a lot to the party. [ all ] yay! [ female announcer ] new ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. twenty-one vitamins and minerals. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. refreshing nutrition in charge!
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gregg: welcome back. right now campaign spin doctors and political pundits are gearing up for a field day a few hours from now. when we expect to hear in the u.s. supreme court decision on the health care ruling. it could spark a lot of heated rhetoric on the 2012 campaign trail, but noted political analyst charlie cook writing in today's edition of the nation journal, the national journal, excuse me, says despite the breathless anticipation, the election still hinges on the
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economy. he may be right. bret baier is anchor of "special report," he joins us now. how do you see this playing out? >> listen, charlie cook has a point that the economic situation is going to drive the day. but this, it's hard to overstate the importance of this ruling in the big picture. because you're dealing with something that was so crucial to president obama's first year and a half in office that he used so much political capital with the democratic house and the democratic senate to push through this health care law, 2700 pages plus. and if it is unraveled, it is a political moment. and it will, as you mentioned, be spun all kinds of ways by all different sides. but the bottom line is you're dealing with billions and billions of dollars that would have to be unwound. some of it's being spent as we speak. gregg: right. >> since oral arguments at the end of march, $2.7 billion has
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been paid out by hhs to various companies as a part of the setup to the health care law. gregg: and people we've interviewed have actually said they're now paying more because of it, because they've gotten these notices, these letters from their insurance carrier telling them that. but, look, um, there's only, what, four and a half, five months remaining before the election. is there enough time for a dramatic improvement in the economy, or has time run out? >> most economists will say there won't be this aggravated assault surge, gregg. you heard ben bernanke, federal reserve chair, say unemployment will remain above 8% in the near future. you have gas prices, obviously, that are going down, and that's a good thing for the obama administration. but the unemployment picture doesn't look like it's going to change dramatically. and you have consumer confidence which has been taking a hit in recent weeks. so all of that builds up to an august kind of unemployment
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report into september where the cake is kind of baked in the economy. and if it tracks with elections past, that is an uphill battle for the obama administration on the economic issues. gregg: all right. bret baier, "special report" tonight at 6:00 eastern time. bret, thanks very much. >> sure. jenna: another big story internationally is iran, and the united states is imposing some new sanctions, new oil sanctions to punish iran for pursuing its nuclear program. we've given more than a dozen countries waivers already. they don't necessarily have to follow the sanctions to the tee. how can sanctions work if that's the case? we're going to ask that question coming up. plus, a terror trial in texas. this young man from saudi arabia had a big list of targets and bomb-making materials, shocking the campus where he was a student. we're going to get the latest from the trial up ahead. >> you wouldn't think that, like, here in, like, the middle of nowhere there'd be somebody
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>> reporter: this is the third day of testimony in the trial, we're monitoring it from down here. prosecutors are ooh trying to show -- are trying to show this former texas tech student was trying to become a terrorist. he was in the country, as you said, legally. he did have a student visa, and he's alleged to have begun gathering the materials to make that bomb. he was studying chemical
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engineering at texas tech. federal agents got a warrant to search his apartment. they went there and found a number of things including chemicals, wiring, even clocks which could have have been used as timing devices to set off an explosion. here's a former agent who was a part of the investigation. >> i think he was very close, and thank goodness this person reported him to the authorities because if not, then he probably would have, he would have attacked one of his targets, and he was committed and close to pulling the trigger. >> reporter: after that search at his apartment, the student was arrested in february of last year. investigates say he was also in the process of picking possible targets and had researched the home of former president bush, also dams in the area. he is charged with attempted use of a weapon of mass destruction. he faces up to life in prison. back to you. gregg: rick folbaum, thanks very much. jenna: new sanctions go into
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effect to clamp down on iran and oil sales key to its economy. this is all part of an effort to put so much pressure on iran, the regime will simply stop its pursuit of nuclear power. now, before these tough sanctions go into effect u the obama administration has granted waivers to 8 countries allowing them to keep buying iranian crude if exchange if they just buy less of it. but why? do we really need all those waivers? mark leibowitz, do we need those waivers? >> hi, jenna. you know, we needed those waivers at the end of last year when oil markets were very tight, and the administration was rightly concerned if we took iranian oil off the market too fast, oil prices would spike and hand the regime massive economic windfall. market conditions have changed. market is buoyant, it's liquid, and i think we have much more flexibility right now to senately e deuce -- senately reduce the amount of iranian oil the reell.
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i think the waivers are necessary, but i think we should significantly raise the threshold for those waivers. jenna: so what would that look like? >> well, for the next six months or so if countries want to be exempted from u.s. sanctions, they should be forced to reduce their purchase of iranian oil by 30 or 40%, and that could have a significant impact on iran's economic life blood which is its oil revenue. jenna: we see south korea saying we're not going to do business with iran, but the big question becomes for the much bigger economies, economies like china, for example, whether or not they're going to get onboard. do you foresee that? >> well, i think the chinese are slowly getting onboard. i mean, if you look at their oil imports from january to may, on that calculation it's down by 20-25%. i think you will see chinese imports increase from june to july. so the real question is, will china play ball? i, ultimately, they they will -- think they will. they're not taking advantage of the significant discounts that
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are available right now because they care about the diplomatic fallout with washington. jenna: talk to us about the next six months. these sanctions go into effect on sunday. what do you see? >> well, from an economic perspective i see iranian oil revenue already dropping by 40% and conceivably dropping by a further 70% for the next six months. so what we're looking at is a significant reduction in iranian oil revenue. but, jenna, these sanctions were not designed to punish the economy, they were designed to stop iran's nuclear weapons program, and we're seeing no evidence that the supreme leader is willing to reach a negotiated settlement with the international community. jenna: so the big question is, do you think there will be enough pressure? will it put enough pressure on the middle class of iran, put enough pressure on the regime within the next 60, 90 days or maybe even as far out as six months that we see a change, or do you think these sanctions are just part of an exercise that's leading us towards different
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options? >> well, the issue right now is that iranian nuclear physics is beating western economics. and the nuclear weapons program is moving forward aggressively. so we have to get really aggressive on these sanctions if we have any hope of changing his risk/reward calculus or reigniting the democratic counterrevolution we saw in 2009. if we're on the sanctions dial from 0-10, we're at a 6. we've got to get to a spinal tap 11. jenna: well, you need money, though, right? don't you need money to get that program off the ground and continue to put resources into developing that pneumonia lahr program? be so -- nuclear program? so where's that money coming from? there'll be less coming from the oil markets, will that slow down the process, or are they getting must be from, you know -- money from, you know, somewhere else? >> i'm skeptical. their foreign currency reserves are somewhere in the neighborhood of 60-100 billion dollars. i think denying them the funds
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specifically to finish the program is a fool's errand. what we really need to do is create massive economic crisis and put khamenei to a choice between his bomb and his regime. the physics of the program is beating the economic pressure that we can't impose. we may be heading to a confrontation where we have to start looking at using military force to stop this program. i hope it won't happen, but sanctions may be too little, too late. jenna: mark, thank you for the time today and the analysis. we always appreciate it. >> thanks so much, jenna. gregg: and coming up, we're going to be checking in on the campaign trail. governor romney, president obama getting millions from donors. we're going to tell you who's holding five fundraisers today with one event selling tickets to a round table for no less than -- get out your checkbook -- $35,000. plus, shaming kids. you know, many parents have been
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jenna: well, right now governor mitt romney campaigning in
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virginia, talking about his jobs plan. this a day after mr. romney blasted president obama for his handling of immigration. of course, that follows the supreme court's decision on the arizona controversial immigration law. chief washington correspondent james rosen has more for us now. >> reporter: jenna, good afternoon. let's waste no time and take our viewers live to salem, virginia, just northwest of roanoke. there the presumptive gop nominee is just getting ready to speak to supporters at the carter machinery company. carter sells and services huge caterpillar construction vehicles, earth movers, harvesters, asphalt distributers and the like, and it will serve as a forum for governor romney to talk about job creation. he has not yet begun speaking, as you can see, we'll check back once that's underway. this event will provide the governor with an opportunity to speak on camera for the first time about yesterday's supreme court ruling on arizona's immigration law, addressing a group of latino elected
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officials last week romney promised to enact a, quote, long-term solution to the nation's immigration problem. after yesterday's supreme court decision, however, it was romney's spokesman who faced the candidate's traveling press corps. >> arizona, like many other states in this nation, have taken it upon themselves to craft policies for their own states. the governor has said repeatedly that the states are a laboratory of democracy. what one state crafts may not work in others but, ultimately this, again, goes back to the president failing to deliver on his campaign promises. >> reporter: president obama, meantime, is campaigning in atlanta and then miami beach. he will rally supporters at the jackie gleason theater. it'll be mr. obama's second trip to florida in a week. he was in the sunshine state last week and previewed his newest line of attack on romney as a serial outsourcer of jobs during his days at bain capital. that is struck again in the latest round of ads and videos one of which targets virginia
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voters specifically. >> "the washington post" has just revealed that romney's companies were pioneers of shipping u.s. jobs overseas. investing in firms that specialized in relocating jobs done by american workers to new facilities in low-wage countries like china and india. does virginia really want an outsouser -- outsourcer in chief in the white house? >> reporter: governor romney will hold a close-door fundraiser in new jersey tonight. follow me on twit or, and after i leave this studio i will tweet out the name of the big time gop politician who will be appearing at that event. jenna in. jenna: quite a tease. [laughter] >> reporter: it's what i do well. jenna: well balanced. gregg: i'm getting on twitter right now. i don't have time for this story, for this segment because i'm going to tweet now. just kidding. is shaming an appropriate
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punishment for juvenile offenders? judges across the united states now turning to these unconventional sentences to punish kids. check this out. one case, this mother asked to cut her daughter's hair off in court. her 13-year-old was facing detention for chopping off the hair of a 3-year-old. the judge said he would reduce the 150-hour sentence if the mother agreed to cut off her hair in what she called an eye for an eye punishment. yeah. many strict parents across the united states have been using similar tactics on their own kids, including wearing signs describing their so-called offenses. lis wiehl thinks it's a really terrific idea, and she joins us now. [laughter] she is a fox news legal analyst -- okay, i'm exaggerating. >> thank you. gregg: she doesn't think it's a good idea, but she thinks judges are entitled to do it. doug burns is the voice of reason, and he is a criminal
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defense attorney, god bless them. >> you've handicapped them before we open our mouths, gregg. gregg: of course. so try to justify yourself, lis. >> myself? how about doug justify himself. [laughter] look at this. you've got a mom going into a courtroom, gregg, right? and she's told under, you know, by this judge you cut off your child's hair. do this right here, right now. that mother is afraid, the child is afraid. what kind of rehabilitation is that? what that means is the mother and the child are going to be so scared of that judge and the court system, they're going to be angry, and that's not a good thing to do to a 13-year-old. gregg: yeah. doug, the fault here, um, lies, what, with the judge? >> well, look, you know, the question is we're a long way from public floggings and, you know, the scarlet letter, hester print having to wear a big a on her chest, gregg. you know, i've seen cases where they turn around and put in some kind of condition. there was a case out in the
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ninth circuit, carve out the fact that everybody says, oh, that doesn't count, the ninth circuit. the defendant stole money from a post office, and the judge made him stand with a sign saying i stole mail, this is my punishment. is that so terrible? >> doug, let's talk about the ninth circuit for a moment. >> sure. >> let me see, maybe the most overturned circuit in the country? gregg: i was going to say that, but i'm glad you did. let me talk about jonathan turley who's a very smart law professor. i fail to see how the court reducing itself to the level of a 13-year-old teaches a moral, relate alone -- let alone legal lesson. the court was doing precisely what the 13-year-old did to a child. he's got a point, doesn't he, lis? >> absolutely, he's got a point. you can't reduce -- if you're the judge, first of all, imagine the courtroom. you're the judge, you're elevated there, you're wearing the robe. your the one who's meting out punishment and/or justice. so you level yourself down to
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that 13-year-old and say, okay, tit for tat? i don't think that works for a 13-year-old, nor should it. gregg: you know, in a way turley argues that it undermines the justice system. what do you think about that, doug? >> well, the thing about it is, though, um, there's an open question as to whether the counterargument is this type of thing will serve better rehabilitation than simply prison. we have two million people in prison in this country, the most in the world. thirty years ago we had 200,000. how did we get there? maybe these alternative punishments, with all due respect -- >> we weren't talking about prison. we were talking about community service. >> right. >> i would say to this girl, this 13-year-old girl who did a bad thing, yes, go out, do that community service. serve all of those hours. make it even more hours. that's fine. that's not talking about prison, that's going out and helping your community. i'm for that. i'm not for meting out this kind of juvenile punishment.
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gregg: chopping off hair, doug, she could work in a soup kitchen, that would be good. >> exactly. >> i understand your guys' argument, but by the same toke token some of these punishments, you know, i think would be held up in the courts. gregg: all right. >> no. no, no, no -- >> ninth circuit, lis. >> and remind me, what circuit are they, the most what? >> remind me, is that still a viable court? >> overturned circuit in the, in the country? gregg: i'm not going to weigh in on that one, the ninth circuit. >> excuse me. gregg: yeah, i know. lis wiehl, doug burns, good to see you both. jenna: violence escalating in syria, and now turkey is calling syria an open threat to them. the tensions between the two nations now growing, this after syria shot down a turkish jet. are we watching this slow descent towards an all-out war, and if we do see that, where does the united states come into play? lieutenant colonel ollie north
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joins us live in just a few minutes.
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jenna: well, as fighting increases inside syria, the regime is now also facing another dynamic, retaliation from its neighbor, turkey, potentially. we'll see. turkish officials are outraged after syrian forces shot down a military jet late last week. talks are now underway on where this conflict goes next and whether or not the united states will have to get involved here, especially if turkey and syria really go at it. lieutenant colonel oliver north is the host of war stories and is a fox news military analyst. colonel north, let's just start with the basics. >> right. jenna: syria shot down a turkish jet. is that an act of war? >> the airplane is a u.s.-built unarmed two-person vietnam era reconnaissance aircraft shot down over the mediterranean in internatnal waters last friday. the russians, by the way, probably supplied the heat-seeking missile that was used even though the syrians are
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saying it was shot down by machine gunfire. physically impossible given where the airplane went down. russia, by the way, said today, jenna, that it's not a provocation and warned the west against further action against the syrians. jenna: do you think, do you think that was a, to tempt someone to do something else? i mean, what was behind shooting that jet down? >> well, because all along the syrian/turkish border which is where the aircraft came over the border, they are laying mines. the syrian army is laying mines provided, again, by the russians and by the iranians along that border. so they're trying to keep track of where the mines are being put in. the rf-4 was flying over the border, went out over the mediterranean, engaged probably by a surface-to-air missile provided by the russians. so the russians are desperate to hang on to what they've got left in damascus, other side they lose their military naval base
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at tartus. the islamic government in turkey has a very tough job. he's got 35,000 syrian refugees, he's already fired at least scores of their generals. the chief of staff of the turkish military is in jail along with those other officers who were the secularists, and he's now locking up secular newspaper editors and broadcasters and the like. so you ask where this is going? nato is not going to act without u.s. leadership. obama is, as he has been all along, awol on leadership. and the turks aren't going to act because they don't want to start a larger war, and it's already a civil war in syria. jenna: so let's talk a little bit about the united states and what our role potentially will be in syria. right now it doesn't look like we have a lot. we've reported a little bit on the intelligence-gathering part of it. secretary of state hillary clinton on the news of this jet being shot down said the united states condemns this brazen and unacceptable act in the strongest possible terms.
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we keep on hearing these statements. [laughter] when do you think it changes? when do you think it changes into something else? >> yeah. it's not going to change before the election here in this country, for sure. because we're going to continue to condemn in the strongest possible terms every one of these things that syria is doing with the help of the quds force from iran, the islamic revolutionary guard corps, and they're going to condemn it in the strongest possible terms and do absolutely nothing to stop this. we had a chance -- jenna: okay. >> -- a few months ago to work with maliki. they're already well underway, and we didn't do what we needed to do starting all the way back 15 months ago. jenna: so we're talking
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>> the likelihood is that you will end up with a very radical government in syria. and soon to come in libya and egypt. jenna: do you think there is blood on our hands. >> the administration has done nothing in all this. this so-called responsibility to protect, which was obama's foreign policy beginning with the so-called arab spring was utterly and totally failed in protecting the lives of innocent civilians. it is a bloody mess created in large part because of lack of american leadership. jenna: colonel north, changing world changing every moment --
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speak to a city in california facing a difficult crisis. it may go down in history as the largest city vagrancy in our city's history. >> we are talking about stockton, california. first-time homebuyers flock there during the housing boom, with the housing market implosion, it has fallen on
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tough times. the city council is expected to approve bankruptcy later on tonight. as you have said, this will be the largest city bankruptcy in the country, in the history of the u.s., in fact. the second major california city to go bust in just the last few years. alejo did it in 2008. the state is full of cities having financial crisis. santa anna, san jose, the list goes on and on. 20% of the cities in california could be facing bankruptcy by the end of this year. we have heard a lot, of course, about greece and the possible fallout from a greek default, but what about the u.s. states? what the state like california went belly up? it has us thinking about the size of california compare degrees. taken alone, california would be the 10th largest economy in the world. greece's is 41st. the christmas or product is --
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an employment rate is 10.8%, 10.8% increase. california is not an immediate threat of bankruptcy. financial problems are worth taking a look at, especially when you see the global impact that a country like greece can have. back to you. jenna: it really makes you think. jon: they have the parthenon and acropolis. california has a lot going for them. happening now. prairie dogs, they kind of look you, don't they? these guys are literally eating of the town yards, blocking the airport runway, and they have the longer side. william lushness has that story. reporter: a member, they say that the prairie dog doesn't care and they don't have to. why? because if you harm, harass, or for one, he faced a three-year
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prison sentence the utah very god and -- here in iron county, utah, they have had enough. >> we are basically held hostage by the prairie dog and the federal government. reporter: folks say the critter is not threatened, it is taking over from real estate and development. >> we had a truck stop on the north end of the town, but there were too many prairie dogs. reporter: a local church says it is too dangerous for children to play. >> right now, the animals have dominion over us. reporter: prairie dog experts say the rodents serve a purpose. >> just like you have a keystone and arts come if you were to remove the keystone, the arch falls apart. if you remove a prairie dog from the ecosystem, the ecosystem can fall apart. reporter: don't tell that to maher robinson. >> we have had a problem for 20
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years. they started undermining the stones and started tipping over. reporter: the town spent thousands building fences. >> i just want to get them out of here. why waste the money? reporter: in the neighboring town of caroline, the faa to clear declared the airport unsafe because of holes in the runway. >> most people are getting sick and tired of putting up with them because they have more rights and better paid lawyers than what we do. reporter: the prairie dog is stopping economic development and they have very little recourse. the situation is so bad that there is a federal bill that would allow the cemetery to get rid of the rodents and trap them and move them and so forth. you know, the prairie dog people say that they are very important to the people. the prairie dogs like living in the city with the people and that is a problem. jon: the prairie ecosystem would fall apart according to the person in your interview. reporter: well, the hawks and
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badgers eat them, you just can't remove them. the problem is they like living in the city speech you they have lawyers. >> not very good lawyers, but they have lawyers. jon: william, thank you so much. the state bar association is going to call. jenna: our resident lawyer on deck. some numbers here you will want to think about. it is too late for us, before you get married and start a family. jon: we too late for me., jenna: interesting fact when we, . . i have the most common type of atrial fibrillation,r afib. it's not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin, but my doctor put me on pradaxa instead to reduce my risk of stroke. in a clinical trial, pradaxa® (dabigatran etexilate mesylate) reduced stroke risk 35% better than warfarin. and unlike warfarin, with pradaxa, there's no need for regular blood tests. that's really important to me.
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but jenna: compromise, sacrifice, these are the things that we care about is the basis for a good marriage. did you ever wonder how much me time you sacrifice compared to single people out there? the government has figured it out. according to the labor department, it is 76 minutes a day. that is how much more time a single person spends on themselves in a married person married people spend more time

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